Thursday, October 4, 2012

ANALYZING THE SHUTDOWNROSSI.COM SITE




More friends have called my attention to the website of Gary Wright and have expressed a rather large spectrum of opinions
from ‘Wright is right’ to ‘beware from this killer’.
Gary himself has commented at my blog a few times and I had some e-mail dialogues with him- I have nothing to complain- a young (?) gentleman with a reasonable behavior and polite wording, despite his very strong convictions.
I have decided to explore “sine ira et studio” his famous (in our circles) website: http://shutdownrossi.com/ Actually he is the second after Steve Krivit to demonstrate systematically that Rossi is a fraud- without any real scientific and/or technical merits and that all E-cat type generators are fakes, tricks, perpetuum stabiles without commercial future.
The site has a strong rhetorical flavor; “shut down Rossi” sounds
as realistic as “stop greed,”, “eradicate corruption,” “live healthy” or as the 11th Commandment, to name just a few.

My first reaction to SHUTDOWNROSSI was envy. Double envy.

I envy Rossi- he is so important, so influential, that somebody- or even more individuals consider necessary to make him to shut up and cease to work with LENR based generators, or even plead guilty and arrange himself to be punished.
On the contrary, no one wants me to shut up and shut down my blog Ego Out despite the liberal, freethinker, negativist, secularist, anti-Moneytheist, pessimist, cold-fusionist, really dangerous ideas expressed there. And even my LENR colleagues do not react with anger to my palladiumphobic, nanostructures-critical non-conformist ideas being much too tolerant with the many perfidious, heretical statements. Some do this even after reading indeed what I have published on the Ego Out blog.

I envy even more Gary Wright who seems to belong to a much happier human species than myself. Reading his blog I have achieved something very rare in my life:  certainty. The certainty
that he is sincere and wants very sincerely to shut down Rossi
because Rossi does harm – first of all will ruin completely the reputation of LENR. LENR’s reputation is not high; can you please help me with a decent metaphor replacing the ugly Hungarian one “under the frog’s ass” that cannot appear here
from obvious reasons?

Gary writes about the opinions of many people and about what can be considered facts – but these http://shutdownrossi.com/?page_id=1342 are his own thoughts.
It seems Gary has more certainties regarding Rossi than me, and I think these are not based on a better documentation- on much more facts and on more direct information re Rossi than I have. And I have confessed already more than a year ago that Rossi is an insoluble IQ test for me. And he remained so up to today, incognoscible- kind of stressing puzzle- he and his many kinds of E-cats.

(I have delayed a few days the publication of this paper due to
http://www.ecatworldnews.com/?p=195- an other publication on the same subject- I don’t want to write in the seemingly “me too” style.)

O.K. Gary Wright is describing Rossi in the most definite “black or white”,” evil or good” approach- and Rossi is black and evil for him, beyond any doubt. Rossi’s past is accusing him, his present is dim, just lies and dirty tricks, data and mass manipulation. He has no future and has to be stopped, shut down as sooner, as better. Certainty, no doubts, everything is measured and settled.

Gary Wright even does not consider the black and white variant of Rossi being a scammer and a real inventor in the same time and the same person. He is not usimg parallel lines of thinking.

My mode of thinking (see the writings in this Blog) is very different from Gary’s especially my relationship with the certainties.
To tell it openly, I am a counter-champion in matters of certainties. I am not dependent on certainties- except those related to my family. My other certainties are incomplete, local, temporal, not truly irreversible, weakened by iffyness. More moral than factual. They are much more related to methods, principles and rules than to results, truths and symbols. Even more important, my certainties are vectorial –they have a direction and are not scalar- about a fixed aim or value. I am much more certain about what has to be done than about what was, is, or will be done. And, definitely< I have much more negative pseudo-certainties than positive ones.
Related to this is my inability to believe in weird things and my high degree immunity to strong and sticky memes (if you are interested why, please read the writings labeled BISINIS on my
Blog)

P.S Wanting to help me- because certainly the Web likes my efforts – it sends just now a relevant book:

Ginger Campbell
Are You Sure? The Unconscious Origins of Certainty
http://www.virginiacampbellmd.com/blog/2012/6/12/are-you-sure-now-out-for-kindle.html

However, actually I am not sure the Web loves me, it could be a
simple coincidence. But it is a book with an important message
and you can listen to the basic ideas here:
http://secularbuddhism.org/2012/06/30/episode-124-ginger-campbell-are-you-sure-the-unconscious-origins-of-certainty/

This is also not encouraging for the certainty lovers:
http://reason.com/archives/2012/10/02/half-of-the-facts-you-know-are-probably

For an even better view of the Certainty concept, see please the Quotations appended to this writing.


BUT NOW I DON’T WANT TO MAKE ONLY THE THEORY OF CERTAINTY!

I think there are very serious reasons for Gary and the “good boys” who share his certainty that Andrea Rossi is a scammer and nothing (good) more, to think over what they believe/tell and to find solid proofs for their opinion.

Their certainty that Rossi is a scammer in such an extent that he has to be shut down and the e-Cats have to be disassembled and the pieces to be used in honest projects, must be based on an other certainty: Rossi is NOT able to obtain any excess heat, his method is totally impotent and all energy he ever obtained in his experiments was entirely faked, stolen from the grid, coming from some hidden batteries or from other occult sources.

Gary Wright is right that no experiments by truly independent E 3rd part testers were publicly made with Rossi\s generators. however a long series of experiments- 12 to 14 were made and
the people who assisted could not be all Rossi’s accomplices or victims mesmerized by Rossi. There were no quality experiments
but it needs a very good imagination to think that the tests were
faked-all- completely- with totally inactive “active” cores.
There is not only one way to be a scammer; if Rossi cannot obtain
any excess heat, he is a 0 = 2 absolute scammer and then he has to be stopped or much better ignored and forgotten.
If he is a 2 = 8 scammer i.e. he gets some excess heat and makes arrangements in order to demonstrate that he has much more heat than he really has, then he has to be forced to tell the truth. This is in theory because his defensive, secrecy lines are well built and he is doing what he wants. His actions are chaotic, unpredictable, he generates a mixture of information and disinformation- much smoke.
For those having the certainty of the total scammer idea it could be a good mental exercise to

a) Imagine and describe how has he faked the experiments;

b) Explain how will he sell E-cats that do not catch a Watt of energy mice.

Telling it again- it is awfully difficult to imitate excess heat at kW levels. But from excess heat to a practical energy source it is a very long way to go.

I think it is a higher probability of the 2 =8 scam and this means that later Rossi himself or other people –good engineers- will be
able to achieve 80, 800 and so on i.e. intensification, scale-up and control. See please what I have written about Rossi here: http://egooutpeters.blogspot.ro/2012/05/my-way-to-lenr-truth.html
I have been one of the naives, who have tried to convince Rossi to perform one perfect, i.e. very reliable experiment, but he did not wanted such a test and perhaps he couldn’t do it- probably due to the lack of control. I have no certainties but I am not changing my opinion if it is worked out based on facts, step by step.

Rossi laments a lot about he authorities which are delaying the approval of his patent, thus obliging him to protect his epochal invention by unorthodox methods. and misleading secrecy.
It is known that Focardi has transferred a part of the Piantelli know-how to Rossi. The patent http://patentscope.wipo.int/search/en/WO2009125444 is not well written (I am sure I will win the next contest of euphemistics too), and speaks about 150 to 5000 deg C- while nickel boils around 3300 C and is ab ovo beaten by Piantelli’s masterfully conceived patents, My hypothesis was and remained- Rossi does not want a
real patent because what he has discovered is a rather simple thing as some additives. These change the game, but it is not easy at all to play really well. The additives are a necessary but not sufficient condition to achieve practical LENR+.
I hope that the solution found by Rossi is real and – personal ambition!- related to the predictions of my 1992 “Topology first”
paper. From time to time, Rossi says he has a Theory and gives miniature fragments of it. Recently he has said his famous catalyst is not a chemical catalyst. This is a new example of his practice to do and not do things in the same time- in this case to give information and not give information.

However Rossi is in any case a kind of human LENR catalyst. IMHO the worst scenario is this: Rossi is a science-fiction (or techno-fiction) author and he has imagined how has LENR come out of its long stagnation as a technology. Life and LENR are much more interesting with Andrea Rossi as without him. I am actually very grateful to him. At 10 Jan 2011 I became jobless
for the first time in my adult life and 4 days later the first Rossi
experiment took place at Bologna University., the LENR world has changed and became more interesting and promising. It is not so fatally relevant that the promises are not still kept- or other people will make them a reality.
Therefore I am for a site http://givechancestorossi.com
Let the e-Cats speak for him; it is possible the first, the fat, the hot Cats are not good, but the agile cats will be. Or not, who knows?
I think, and this can play the role of a certainty that Rossi has invented or has imagined he has invented a new way in LENR.
In historical perspective, both cases are beneficial.

Peter



Relevant quotations.

A reasonable probability is the only certainty. (E.W. Howe)“

The one unchangeable certainty is that nothing is unchangeable or certain. (John Fitzgerald Kennedy)

There is no such uncertainty as a sure thing. (Robert Burns)

One of the few certainties in life is that persons of certainty should certainly be avoided. (Willy Russell)

In all affairs it's a healthy thing now and then to hang a question mark on the things you have long taken for granted. (Bertrand Russell)

Certainty? In this world nothing is certain but death and taxes.
(Benjamin Franklin)

If it is true that we need a degree of certainty to get by, it is also true that too much of the stuff can be lethal (Terry Eagleton),

Let go of certainty. The opposite isn't uncertainty. It's openness, curiosity and a willingness to embrace paradox, rather than choose up sides. The ultimate challenge is to accept ourselves exactly as we are, but never stop trying to learn and grow.  (Tony Schwartz)

At the core of all well-founded belief lies belief that is unfounded. (Ludwig Wittgenstein)

Certainty makes you blind to the obvious. (Srinivas Pakalapati)

Yet it is unassailably true that so long as we lack omniscience and do not know all of the future, all our generalizations are fallible or only probable. And the history of human error shows that a general consensus, or widespread and unquestioned feeling of certainty, does not preclude the possibility that the future may show us to be in error. (Morris F. Cohen)

Certainty is the most vivid condition of ignorance and the most necessary condition for knowledge. (Kedar Joshi)

In some cases, I am able to respect what so many call bigots. Such people have a more solid foundation for drawing their lines when it comes to the security of their ways and quite possibly the security of mankind. They rely on something that has worked to get man this far without placing ideals blindly driven by emotion first; they have a sure line and they say, 'No.' That, in a sense, is something I find to be highly respectable. (Criss Jami)

People don’t want knowledge, but certainties. (Bertrand Russell)

The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves, and wiser people so full of doubts. (Bertrand Russell)

Inquiry is fatal to certainty. (Will Durant)

Our best built certainties are but sand-houses and subject to damage from any wind of doubt that blows (Mark Twain)

Creativity can be described as letting go of certainties.
(Gail Sheehy)

All business proceeds on beliefs, or judgments of probabilities, and not on certainties. (Charles W. Eliot

A great literature is chiefly the product of inquiring minds in revolt against the immovable certainties of the nation. (Henry Louis Mencken)

The public, with its mob yearning to be instructed, edified and pulled by the nose, demands certainties; it must be told definitely and a bit raucously that this is true and that is false. But there are no certainties. (Henry Louis Mencken)

In essence we have become addicted to the certainty, sureness or sense of security that our faith provides. (Leo Booth)

There are very few certainties that touch us all in this mortal experience, but one of the absolutes is that we will experience hardship and stress at some point. (James C. Dobson)

I tore myself away from the safe comfort of certainties through my love for truth - and truth rewarded me. (Simone de Beauvoir)

Add a few drops of venom to a half truth and you have an absolute truth.  (Eric Hoffer)


14 comments:

  1. Hello Peter,
    Another in a long line of interesting articles.

    After reading your article I have come to a new certainty myself - I think there is something we can all agree on - and that is, no matter how this Rossi story ends, this will be another interesting chapter in the long history of cold fusion/LENR.

    The Best,
    Gary Wright

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    1. Thanks, Gary!
      Definitely, the first year of the Rossi saga was more interesting than the second, till now.
      Let's watch the events, because words have limited power
      Peter

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    2. The more you believe that Gary Wright the more it gives credibility to Rossi. LOL Since if Rossi is right then your statement would be even more pronounced and relevant in 10 20 years. LOL

      Peace.

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  2. Any hack with $30 can make a website. I think it would be better spent on meds
    For the guy.
    Steven Krivit at least has the excuse his livelihood will vanish with LENR.
    I cannot see sanity prevailing on that website, but I do agree there is a certain innocence about mental people.

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    1. Dear Anonymous,

      I can guess what you want to asy, but I don't understand
      the second phrase.

      May I ask you - if you do not want to use your real names,
      please use relevant nicknames (for the entire Anonymous clan, tribe, family)

      Peter

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    2. The Anonymous name is used because I am not a member of the assorted choices it gives you when posting such as facebook and such. I am kwhilborn however and have been an active commenter on LENR for years.

      One of the options is to post as anonymous (google account,livejournal,wordpress,typepad,aim). If I could post via yahoo I would, but it was not an option.

      If you post as Anonymous in the choices given you cannot choose any relevant nickname. This is the way this comment section is set up. We are not a CLAN.

      Steven Krivit is also opposed to AR. My second phrase was stating that Steven Krivit stands to lose his livelihood (NewEnergyTimes website) once a new geen energy takes over. Steven krivit has monetary reasons to dislike Andrea Rossi.

      That is what I meant by the second phrase.

      I think Gary Wright is just a bit loopy. I have not visited his website however so don't know for sure how far gone he is.

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    3. Thank you, thta's a fine nickname, especially the first 2 letters.
      It is interesting whta you sy about Steve Krivit, however
      I do not believe he is such an egoist. He is an expert
      investigation journalist and can, in principle, write well
      and attractively about many subjects. He was disappointed
      and shocked by a bad Rossi experiment. His fault is IMHO the"who is not with us, is against us" policy.
      I advise you visit the shutdownrossi site, even if you do not agree with Gary (as me) - it is a well built site with
      a good logical structure. Audiatur et altera pars!

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    4. When Krivit visited the Rossi camp he also took videos of other professors involved in the experiments such as Focardi and Levi. I would be tempted to believe in the ecat based on the words of these gentleman in those videos.

      Watch the videos I mention, and you will see Focardi and Levi speak in earnest and with much enthusiasm about a topic they are teaching at the University l level. It puzzled me that Krivit would attack the reputation of such men.

      However..

      Krivit does have several co-authored books on LENR that sell for approx $175/each. IF LENR advances its technology then these books will be out of date and worthless to the authors. So Krivit does stand to lose book sales on several volumes.

      Steven krivit also runs a website and is considered a expert in new energy. Should a new energy arise that is wonderful/abundant/clean/green, then perhaps websites like his will fade away as nobody will care about replacing a good energy source.

      His attacks have seemed very personal against Rossi and I do believe he is purposefully trying to prevent the advancement of LENR. His website and book incomes are directly threatened so all of his "investigative Journalism" should be viewed with this in mind.

      This is how I view Steven Krivit. The Gary Wright fellow will not make my required reading list still, as I prefer to get my news from rational and trusted sources. I would bet money that GW has some noticeable mental illnesses. I can see no sane reasoning for attacking up and coming technologies unless he is working for an oil company, and frankly anyone rich from oil is already diversified into coca-cola and McDonalds enough that they would also be happy to see LENR come.

      I stand by my short assessment, but at least give some reasoning this time.

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    5. I have no idea if Steve Krivit reads my blog and how
      would he react to these accusations- if he would.
      Re Gary Wright I would suggest you- if you do not read
      his website any comment is baseless.

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  3. As Mr. Rossi edit and even remove critical posting from his JONP it is only natural these questions pop-up elsewhere.

    Mr. Rossi will never be able to successfully run a multinational, billion dollar company. He does not posses a single quality necessary to do so. His wife is probably a much safer bet.

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    1. In principle- Science, Technology, Management, Business- all
      these different qualities and virtues-a and a team is necessary. A toxic boss (personality) can ruin everything.
      Without Coopetition there is no success.
      The recent history offers a fine, positive example- Brin, Page,Schmidt made Google great- we all owe a lot to them.

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  4. I think by now that Rossi has removed all doubt
    That he is indeed following in the footsteps of such
    great "artists" as Stanley Meyer and John Worrel Keely!

    These men laid the foundations upon which Rossi now
    can only follow!

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  5. Dear Jetmech,
    do you deny the right to be original and innovative
    to Rossi? Very bad and sad!
    Peter

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  6. I think that Rossi is pretty much doing exactly what Keely did.

    Can Rossi last 26 years without a product?
    Keely was an artist.
    http://www.lhup.edu/~dsimanek/museum/keely/keely.htm

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